An Ongoing Conversation

In light of recent and ongoing events, I invited back previous guests Steph Hunt and Tom Ward to the show for a conversation. Steph is the director of the African American and Latino Scholars program at Brookline High School; Tom is a Deputy Superintendent with the Brookline Police. I originally had each of them on the show because they are two individuals trying to make the world a better place in their own way. That remains to be the case today. This is not a debate, but a conversation between two good people. Available on iTunes, Stitcher, and link below.

Making People Around You Better with Michael Gropman

My guest this week is Michael Gropman, Deputy Superintendent of the Community Service Division of the Brookline Police Department. In addition to his over thirty years of law enforcement experience, Michael also holds his Doctorate in Education and Human Development, was part of the founding team for TEDxBeaconStreet, teaches leadership skills to police and security officers, and founded both men’s and women’s community hockey associations. He is a thoughtful, caring man who is deeply dedicated to community. Available on iTunes and Stitcher. 

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Discussed in this episode:

Juvenile Justice

The Massachusetts Arrest Screening Tool for Law Enforcement (MASTLE)


Michael’s TEDx Talk

Boston Marathon Bombing

What makes a Good Life?

Sports Psychology

Adam Naylor

Make Your Bed